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Do You Believe We Lived Before Birth?

By , About.com GuideAugust 9, 2007

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Latter-day Saints believe that we lived (as spirits) before being born on this earth, in a place called the Premortal Existence. Do you believe we lived before birth? Share your belief in this poll:



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December 12, 2007 at 12:42 pm
(1) Tanya :

You have not used one verse from the Bible to support this. All you have used is from the Book of Mormon. Why is that?

March 15, 2008 at 9:04 am
(2) Lee :

You did live before human life is covered in the Bible book of Job 38:7 and other bible scriptures. Your soul is your individual spirit part of God spirit which has always existed, is eternal, and immortal. Most religions do have scriptures related to premortal life, whether you believe it or not is your free-will choice from which you will reap as you sow.

July 20, 2008 at 5:56 pm
(3) Minerva :

Lee or?

I do have certain personal beliefs that we lived before birth in Heaven. I am a born again Christian and although churches I’ve attended have not covered this topic in detail, I believe that we were once spirits with a free will. I still have yet to find back up on my beliefs by ways of scripture. In the verse you quoted Job 38:7 this does not indicate that we are the Angels, still this does not change my belief. I will continue to search for the other passages that can lead us to this understanding, but if you find something in the meantime can you please post.

October 14, 2008 at 12:56 pm
(4) Lee :

All individual life began as spirit life with God long before human life on earth. For those who don’t have the time and means for complicated research, the LDS Plan of Salvation found online is a good start. I am not a Mormon but they are way ahead of other religions on negelected premortal life teachings.

October 14, 2008 at 1:06 pm
(5) Lee :

Minerva, If you are a born again person then you are one of the Sons (child) of God mentioned in Job 38 and many other other scriptures. You have lived a lot longer than you know because of the veil of forgetfulness spoke of in the online LDS Plan of Salvation which is a good start place to learn more about premortal life, I am not a Mormon.

August 10, 2009 at 2:00 pm
(6) Joseph Murphy :

Pre Mortal existance

It is a proven fact friends.
I am living proof of it.
with drawings done from memory of what my heaven looked like in pre existance.
I was bn in 1956 am 54 now.
I’ve been there as a spirit before child birth to my mortal mother on earth.
We live in a have to see to believe world.
How can you not believe what you have not seen when you know it is there.
Pre Existance is deifferent for us all.
I am white male age 54.
My true expierence best described to you all.
Just think of my own exspierence as a man smashing flesh and blood and bone in to a solid steel rail for a train to run on when he is angered.
That is my real pre existance for me.
Mine comes from no church, no Bible.

September 16, 2009 at 8:35 pm
(7) Joseph Murphy :

Friends

My pre birth memory’s started out as real expierences and not knowing what they were.
I did not understand these feelings fully.
But this message goes with me every where I go in life.
Now go forth and teach the people of these things that you see and do here and are a part of here.
so that they might believe.
How dose one teach a bunch of bull mheaded people of any thing.
you read you decide what is true what aint.
It is so real for me.
It is burned in to my memory for all time.
I need no scriptures to tell me what I seen.
In this area there was destroyed buildings every where in heaven.
The old and new kings James version of the bible clearly points out war in heaven and rumors of wars.

September 30, 2009 at 1:34 am
(8) chris :

Joseph,

Can you please explain exactly what you remember – from start to finish – about your pre-birth memory?

I believe you are telling the truth, and I will explain why, after you further describe your memories.

Thank you,

Chris

October 5, 2009 at 6:05 pm
(9) Joseph Murphy :

Chris
Joseph
You asked a fair question of me and I will try to answer it
In heaven I was a spirit yes, Why do I recall my spirit life That part has been answered by a mortal doctor of the mind in Oregon
Saying i was born with no viel.
I recall falling in heaven through white misty clouds and it was a beutifull area I was in.
I will be brief as possible here.
I landed on a walk way behind a long line of people and nearly run in to them getting stopped and I seen a man sitting on a thrown like chair talking to a boy between 9 to 14 in age who was in tears.
the man I call him god or a father like figure talking to a son shareing his love.
With that boy.
That disappears and I see the tunnel I am sitting in side of.
Some thing clear and invisable to the eye attaches to my feet pulling me forward to where at the outer end of this tunnel I see a clear beutifull bright blue sky
with clouds and some thing brown to my left
Message
I recieve a message in this tunnel standing there.
Now go forth and teach the people of these things that you see and do here and are a part of so that they might believe.
end of message
I fall off the outer end of this tunnel and through a opening below me and in to the air.
WAR DAMAGE
I witness an area all over the grassy ground below me with destroyed building imploded in on them selves a city like area beneath me
It brought me to tears my self as I had sorrowed emotions over seeing the destruction all around me on the ground and no people
What hapened here was my question Bible mentions a War in heaven.
how and when no answer
I fall in another place hurting my self but we will not go there.
There was more destruction on the ground below broken and strewn columns of a temple like building with a blacked out door way in it.
It was forbidden for me to enter it.
I found my self in the womb of a mortal woman looking at a unborn baby mortal
Which turned out to be me.
I could not escape the white lights showering me all over next thing I remember entering the unborn mortal baby
And being stuck in the canal listening to the nurse
Mother had given up on having me
Mrs Murphy We will have to make a choice to save your life by euthiniseing your baby breech birth in the canal if you can not force him out.
All i can say is read and decide for your self.
Book at amazon.com Title Now go and teach the people

October 29, 2009 at 9:41 am
(10) Lee :

After many years of research and the axcumulation of more than a million pages of support information and evidence I have found the indwelling Holy Spirit to be the best guide to all truth and rememberance. You can know for sure who has it and who doesn’t by truth-proof TEST from God. We are all spirit beings having human life experiences. God spirit is the source of all life, mind, conscious awareness and memory. God never lies.

November 10, 2009 at 3:48 pm
(11) Jare :

I know these things are true. I’ve read all of theories and studies about the truthfulness of these things, and the same and only thought comes to my mind. You will never come to learn of these truths unless it is literally given to you by the spirit of God. What I mean by literally given to you, I mean you get down on your knees and pray to our Heavenly Father if these things are true. And if they are, the Spirit will give you the clear knowledge and feeling that these things indeed are true. I have done this myself and am a witness as to these things and their divinity. As you seek to find the truth in in these things may you have faith in your prayers and a certainty that the Lord our God will give you an answer.

November 26, 2009 at 8:39 pm
(12) christina :

Psalm 139:15-16
My frame was not hidden from You,
When I was made in secret,
And skillfully wrought in the depths of the earth;
16Your eyes have seen my unformed substance;
And in Your book were all written
The days that were ordained for me,
When as yet there was not one of them.
** interesting note that the psalmist says he was formed ‘in the depths of the earth’..no mention of Heaven…**
Jeremiah 1:5
5″Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,
And before you were born I consecrated you;
I have appointed you a prophet to the nations.”

I think the Scriptures are very clear that GOD knew us before we were born, however it is (I believe) silent on whether we knew Him or not.

I would like to say that we humans are NOT immortal beings, as the Bible says we are born in sin and spiritually dead.
1 Corinthians 15:45-47
So also it is written, “The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL ” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
46However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural; then the spiritual. 47The first man is from the earth, earthy; the second man is from heaven.

Immortality is only given to those who have received the Holy Spirit through believing and following Jesus. However we do not have our immortality now…that is why we will suffer death (unless we are still alive when the Lord returns and are transformed)
Ephesians 1:13-14
“In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation–having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,
14who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God’s own possession, to the praise of His glory.”

That is why at the Judgement, for those whose name is not written in the Book of Life, they experience what is called “the second death”
Revelation 20:14-15
14Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire This is the second death, the lake of fire.
15And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

I just don’t think one can definitively say we pre-existed with God in Heaven, using Scripture as evidence. If that is something someone believes, that’s up to them. If someone has Biblical Scriptural evidence, I would be interested in reading it.

January 7, 2010 at 1:46 am
(13) trent :

Well said Christina…

March 27, 2011 at 8:43 pm
(14) James :

There is no need for physical evidence people. “Oh ye of little faith”. KNOW he Lives.

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